[Wichita-SCCA] Heartland Park Announces Road CourseConfigurationChanges
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Wed Apr 25 11:00:41 EDT 2007
But isn't the point of road racing to see who can steer their cars
through the twists and turns the best, not see how we can make the
course faster? Like Robert implied, it's on it's way to becoming a
Nascar oval. Now that the problem corners are gone, there are going to
be some other corners that people drive way too fast into, or try to
hard to pass in, and they will go off there. Then do you get rid of
those as well? Where does it stop?
Feel free to b-slap me into my place, as I am not yet a road racer. It
just seems that if the winner is the driver that can keep his/her car on
course the most no matter what the circumstances, then that's pretty fair.
Guy Roberts
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#41 - 1994 Polo Green Corvette
-(©¿©)-Dave G wrote:
> After reading the statement from Mr.” Track Owner Guy” about the reason
> for the change being to try to “address two problem areas where cars
> would frequently leave the course and bring debris back on the track
> surface” I’ll say “I’m sure glad that the SSC and My PDX car have
> windshield washers”.
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> I’ve never driven the long course at HPT however, after watching most of
> the sessions of the runoffs from the bleachers at turn one and, watching
> many in car videos, I’ll say that turn 2 does need some help. If you
> watch the speed channel broadcast of the runoffs you will see every run
> group, every lap, at least one car going off at the outside of 2.
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> Turn 9 IS a big “off” area, just look at this month’s Sportscar, top of
> page 100, you will see “Mr. mid div. hot shoe SSC guy” showing the fast
> line and, tossing up a bit of dust. I’d guess that the new turn 8 is
> about directly behind old guy’s car in the picture. Mr. Irwin had
> installed some very ugly tire blowing, suspension breaking, rumble
> strips just about where the Mazda is in the picture but, removed them
> after the runoff test session/Trans-Am race. I’d guess he had some input
> from the membership. My only other thought is that coming out of 9
> you’re looking at a corner station and a concrete wall. Not an issue
> with the slow speed from the old course but… I hope they address
> something here.
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> That said, I think I’ll need a ratchet to get the shoulder harnesses
> tight enough to take the new 7-8-9 sequence without a lift in the neon
> or the Vette.
>
> Dave, I wana race something,,, anything, Gird
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> P.S. I got a fresh tune on the lawn tractor, ya wana go for Pinks?
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> Rocky Entriken wrote:
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>> Rounding off 1-2 may not be a bad thing, but I think 8 was good as is.
>> It's a great passing corner -- fast approach to a slow turn that took
>> some driving skill to do well. I wish he'd leave 8 alone.
>> --Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Robert <mailto:dsp83gti at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Wichita Region SCCA. <mailto:wichita-scca at wichitascca.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:53 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wichita-SCCA] Heartland Park Announces Road
>> CourseConfigurationChanges
>>
>> North is left. The dragstrip is at the bottom, finish is to the
>> right, tower back by 14.
>>
>> Apparently the are drivers that feel if they're not going flat out
>> all the way around, that braking isn't racing, etc. Oh, we have
>> some of those at solo events....
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>> On 4/24/07, *Lonnie Heston* <lhheston at gmail.com
>> <mailto:lhheston at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Rob, are you implying he (or somebody) wants a more
>> Nascar-like track? I like Nascar, but I also think out of 36
>> races there should be 10 on a road course, not 2.
>>
>> I know track operators should listen to the drivers, but the
>> "road course" character IS disappearing.
>>
>> BTW, I am not that familiar with the curvy HPT, is north to
>> the left side of the map?
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>> Lonnie Heston
>> Once and future member
>>
>> On 4/24/07, *Robert* < dsp83gti at gmail.com
>> <mailto:dsp83gti at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, I for some reason was thinking it was at 8.
>>
>> I found watching turn 1 from the hill west of 2
>> fun/exciting/uh-oh, especially on the start.
>>
>> I guess the next step would be for Ray to connect 3 to 6,
>> and 11 to 14....
>>
>> --
>> Robert Foster / '93 Saturn this week...
>> http://motorpride.com/dsp83gti/
>> <http://motorpride.com/dsp83gti/>
>> Wichita Region SCCA - http://wichitascca.org/
>> <http://wichitascca.org/>
>>
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>> On 4/24/07, *Paul Sherman* < paul.sherman1 at att.net
>> <mailto:paul.sherman1 at att.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I hit the wall between turns 10 and 11. I have mixed
>> feelings about the
>> changes myself, but there were MANY people that wanted
>> to see something
>> along the lines of what Ray is doing. Anything to make
>> the Runoffs better
>> is a good thing in my book.
>>
>> P.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Robert <dsp83gti at gmail.com
>> <mailto:dsp83gti at gmail.com>>
>> To: Wichita Region SCCA < wichita-scca at wichitascca.org
>> <mailto:wichita-scca at wichitascca.org>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:58 PM
>> Subject: [Wichita-SCCA] Heartland Park Announces Road
>> Course
>> ConfigurationChanges
>>
>>
>> Hey Paul, what corner did you find the concrete?
>>
>> http://scca.com/News/News.asp?Ref=791
>>
>> --
>> Robert Foster / '93 Saturn this week...
>> http://motorpride.com/dsp83gti/
>> <http://motorpride.com/dsp83gti/>
>> Wichita Region SCCA - http://wichitascca.org/
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