[Wichita-SCCA] Last Weekend HPT

[Mike Dickerson]

David,

I know of one other that never made headlines, which leads me to believe
that there are more we don't see.

Mike

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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:16 AM
To: wichita-scca at wichitascca.org
Subject: Re: [Wichita-SCCA] Last Weekend HPT

Just to set the record straight, it was HPT's lawyer who would not 
budge on the ambulance issue. And since the region pays HPT, there is 
no telling how much actually goes to AMR for their ambulance. HPT also 
has their own safety crew in attendance. Just a little bit paranoid.

In HPT's defense (just in case someone is listening), we did have a 
juvenile hurt while a passenger in a golf cart (which should have been 
covered entirely by the SCCA insurance policy). But it was one of 3 
incident reports filed that weekend.

Oh, just remember that we'll have to have an ambulance at 
Nationals...all 6 days of competition. Wonder who's going to soak up 
that cost? Of course, $7500 (probably more, since we only have them 
9-5) over 1200 competitors isn't as bad as $1250 spread over 80 
competitors.

And to answer Rocky's question, not counting natural causes, I believe 
the answer is 3. Driver, passenger, and (separate incident) 
videographer. Which is why you now have wristbands and spotters 
(respectively).

David Avard
(on hand for 2)

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:10:36 -0500
From: "Dave Whitworth" <dave at wcsllc.net>
Subject: Re: [Wichita-SCCA] Last Weekend HPT

No dog in this fight, and I realize it is fun to attack HPT for 
allowing us to
play there at all, but...

In St. Louis, we autox at Gateway International Raceway.  They have 
been
attempting to add an ambulance for several years.

So far, we have been able to talk them out of it by showing the SCCA 
safety
plan, our own additional safety plan, meeting the safety chiefs, and 
providing a
good "tenant experience".  Eventually, the insurance company will win 
and we too
will be forced to use an ambulance at Solo events.

So, I think this is becoming a racetrack CYA move everywhere, 
especially at HPT
where the relationship seems strained at best.

DaveW

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From: Rocky Entriken
Sent: Thu 4/19/2007 12:29 AM
To: Wichita Region SCCA.
Subject: Re: [Wichita-SCCA] Last Weekend HPT


It is my understanding the ambulance was required by HPT's insuror. 
Which makes
it no less stupid and IMHO SCCA itself should be leaning on both HPT 
and its
insurance agent/carrier to bring some sanity to the situation -- not 
the least
being that HPT as site owner is covered by SCCA's liability insurance. 
This is
nothing more than a way to create income for the insurance carrier by 
forcing
its customer (HPT) to meet requirements that are neither standard of 
the
industry nor supported by decades of data.

Have accidents ever happened (even fatalities) at solo events? Of 
course they
have. Is the incidence of such accidents high enough to warrant such 
precaution?
Not even close. I would bet that the incidence of accidents per 1000 
persons is
higher for people crossing the street, and we don't have ambulances 
parked on
every street corner.

--Rocky Entriken


    <snip>

     I really wish we had a site that nice, but I'm glad we don't have 
to
     deal with the lot fee.  Most of the price increase from last year 
is due
    to having an ambulance there for the whole day.  That is just
     ridiculous.  I'm still upset because I'm paying for a stupid 
ambulance
     and it's personnel to sit around all day waiting for the nothing 
that
     will happen.  What a waste of their time and my money.  I 
understand the
     requirement was made by the site owner and there was no talking him

out
     of it - but I don't have to like it and I do have the right to 
complain
    about it.

    -Brian Meyer

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